we never really imagined that all this data would be warehoused under the nsa. and i think that's what's giving the american people a lot of pause right now. and i think that's what needs to be explained to the american people. and congress will be reviewing this issue in section 215 of the patriot act to see if this is expanded beyond the original intent of the law. >> what actually changes, bart? do you think there's much room here to fundamentally change these programs? because all the nsa says is, look, maybe we could change who controls this meta data, which is in this virtual vault, and who has access to it and how it's kept, which may be not enough for those who think there's a problem. >> well, congress may decide not to allow the nsa or via the fbi to collect every single call record of every single american for this purpose. that's not what the president's argument sounded like in his news conference. he sounded like he wanted to, as you say, just put a little more oversight on it internally, within the executive branch, and to sort of be slightly more